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    Iei! Spain legalises gay marriage

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/gayrights/...518144,00.html
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    <HR noShade SIZE=1>Spain legalises gay marriage


    Staff and agencies
    Thursday June 30, 2005



    Gay rights activists embrace under a flag made up of the Spanish and rainbow flags outside parliament in Madrid after same-sex marriages were legalised despite fierce opposition from the Catholic church. Photograph: Susana Vera/Reuters


    The Spanish parliament today voted to legalise gay marriage despite heavy opposition from the Roman Catholic church.



    Spain is now the fourth country in the world to allow same-sex couples the same rights as married heterosexual couples. Canada approved gay marriages yesterday, while the Netherlands and Belgium legalised them in 2000 and 2003.

    The Methodist church in Britain yesterday became the first big Christian denomination to offer the prospect of blessings services for same-sex couples.

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    The landmark ruling in Spain gives married gay couples equal rights to inheritance and allows them to adopt children. They will also be given the same rights as married heterosexual couples when getting divorced.



    José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero's ruling Socialist government proposed the bill shortly after winning the election last year. On the day he was confirmed as prime minister, Mr Zapatero said he would fight discrimination against homosexuals.

    During the debate before today's historic vote, Mr Zapatero acknowledged Spain was joining the growing numbers of countries legalising gay marriages.

    "We are not the first, but I am sure we will not be the last," he told the chamber. "After us will come many countries, driven, ladies and gentlemen, by two unstoppable forces: freedom and equality."

    The Roman Catholic church and conservative leaders fiercely opposed the bill, but that was always unlikely to stop it gaining support in the congress of deputies.

    The bill was passed by 187 votes to 147. Four members refused to vote on the issue.

    The senate, where conservatives have the majority, rejected the bill last week, but final say on legislation rests with the congress.

    The church is so opposed to the bill it took the rare step of endorsing a rally in which hundreds of thousands, including 20 bishops, marched through Madrid protesting against the legislation on June 18.

    Late last year, the spokesman for the Spanish bishops conference, Antonio Martínez Camino, said that allowing gay marriage was like "imposing a virus on society - something false that will have negative consequences for social life".

    Gay rights groups welcomed today's vote and said the first gay marriages in Spain could take place as soon as 15 days after the law is published in Spain's official journal.

    "This victory in Spain will make many other countries start the battle for equality because it is possible," said gay rights activist Beatriz Gimeno.

    "If Spain, a Catholic and southern Mediterranean country with a short history of policies in protecting social freedoms can do it, it is perfectly possible that any other European country can do it." During the 1939 to 1975 dictatorship of Francisco Franco, homosexuality, divorce and abortion were illegal. But since Franco's death the country has adopted some of the most liberal views in Europe.

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    ¡Viva España!

    ¡Viva el Rey!

    ¡Viva el Partido Socialista Obrero Español!
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    ¡Excelente! Estoy muy feliz que han permitido a los gays casarse. (Espero que mi frase sea correcta...)

    (For the non-Spanish-speakers: Excellent! I'm very happy that they've allowed gays to marry! I hope my sentence is correct...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoviher
    ¡Viva España!

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    ¡Viva el Partido Socialista Obrero Español!
    The only problem there is the last one. Gay marriage good. Socialists bad.
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    Spain rules! Spain fucking RULES!!!
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    All right, Spain!
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    I Now Have A Choice Of Nations To Get Married In

    Ole! I knew a bill was currently in the Spanish Parliament, but I didn't know they voted on it today. If I go to Europe, I now have the choice of getting married in Holland, Belgium and Spain. I would choose Holland, because I've wanted to take a trip there for a long time.
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    Yay. Socialists suck -- and not in the good gay way.

    Congratulations to Spain in its efforts to bring us to equality in recognition of our variations as a species.
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    Yep! I'm so happy. And as Jason said, gay marriage = good, socialism (in its full forms, and communism too) = bad.
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    Spain's Gay Marriage Law Hits First Snag

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050706/...n_gay_marriage

    Spain's Gay Marriage Law Hits First Snag

    MADRID, Spain - Spain's new gay marriage law hit its first snag Wednesday as a court said a Spanish man can't wed his Indian partner because India does not allow same-sex marriage.

    The Supreme Court of Justice of Catalonia cited an article in the Spanish civil code which says foreign residents seeking to wed Spaniards are bound by the laws of the country where they have citizenship. The Indian man is resident of Spain but holds an Indian passport.

    The dispute erupted Tuesday, six days after Spain's parliament made this country the third in the world to legalize gay marriage. The others are Netherlands and Belgium. A decision in Canada is pending until later this month.

    The court's comments — released in a statement prompted by media inquiries, not in a formal ruling — suggest that for the time being at least, gay Spaniards seeking to marry foreigners can only do so with people from the Netherlands and Belgium.

    The Spanish Justice Ministry did not return calls seeking comment.

    The Indian man, identified in news reports as Vipul Dutt, 33, went to a judge in the Barcelona-area village of Canet de Mar with his partner, 45-year-old Spaniard Enric Baucells, seeking to file papers that will allow them to get married.

    Their lawyer, Jose Maria Ortiz, told the newspaper El Periodico that the judge informed them he could not marry them because Dutt is from India, which doesn't allow same-sex marriage.

    The court said that the couples can appeal to a Justice Ministry department that oversees Spain's civil registries.
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    Awww...That sucks...He can't even change his citizenship and stay in Spain? That citizenship law really, really sucks. I think that if he lives in that country, his marriage should be recognised.
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