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Fynix wrote: You didn't really expect Badnarik to take the election though did you?

Anything's possible, but yes: I didn't think it was very probable.

You know you are going to have to wait up to a year from whenever you start the process to immigrate to Canada, right?

You should consider moving to somewhere in Europe.

I've got no problem with people who are so upset about the election results that they are ready to move. I think more Americans living wherever they move to will be good for those places.

Well you could do what my family did while living in Spain. Say you are on vacation there, and cross the border into Portugal or France every six months so that you have the needed stamps on your passport to "prove" it.

'Course that was at the end of the 80's, so I don't know if it would still work.

[INDENT]Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada

OTTAWA (Reuters) – Disgruntled Democrats seeking a safe Canadian haven after President Bush won Tuesday's election should not pack their bags just yet.

Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants — a wait that can take up to a year.

"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'. In other words, there has to be an application. There has to be a reason why the person is coming to Canada," said immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi.

There are anywhere from 600,000 to a million Americans living in Canada, a country that leans more to the left than the United States and has traditionally favored the Democrats over the Republicans.

But recent statistics show a gradual decline in U.S. citizens coming to work in Canada, which has a creaking publicly funded healthcare system and relatively high levels of personal taxation.

Government officials, real estate brokers and Democrat activists said that while some Americans might talk about a move to Canada rather than living with a new Bush administration, they did not expect a mass influx.

"It's one thing to say 'I'm leaving for Canada' and quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school," said one government official.

Roger King of the Toronto-based Democrats Abroad group said he had heard nothing to back up talk of a possible exodus of party members.

"I imagine most committed Democrats will want to stay in the United States and continue being politically active there," he told Reuters.

Americans seeking to immigrate can apply to become permanent citizens of Canada, a process that often takes a year. Becoming a full citizen takes a further three years.

The other main way to move north on a long-term basis is to find a job, which in all cases requires a work permit. This takes from four to six months to come through.

Official statistics show the number of U.S. workers entering Canada dropped to 15,789 in 2002 from 21,627 in 2000. Early indicators on Wednesday showed little sign of this changing.

A spokesman for Canada's foreign affairs ministry said there had been no increase in the number of hits on the Washington embassy's immigration Web site, while housing brokers said they doubted they would see a surge in U.S. business.

"Canada's always open and welcoming to Americans who want to relocate here, but we don't think it would be a trend or movement," said Gino Romanese of Royal Lepage Residential Real Estate Services in Toronto.

Those wishing to move to Canada could always take a risk and claim refugee status — the path chosen earlier this year by two U.S. deserters who opposed the war in Iraq.

"Anybody who enters Canada who claims refugee status will be provided with a work permit … it doesn't matter what country they're from," Iadinardi said.

Refugee cases are handled by special boards, which can take months to decide whether to admit applicants. The rulings can be appealed and opposition politicians complain some people ordered deported have been in Canada for 10 years or more.[/INDENT]

I'm not going anywhere just yet, though i do have an exit, being a dual irish-american citizen. But America is still the best country on earth, and even if there was a draft, i would not leave it. Personally, if there is a back door draft, im enlisting in the navy (both my parents and my grandfather were in the navy, so its kind of expected that if i would be drafted otherwise, i enlist) or applying for leave to go to college and then joining as an officer

SciVille wrote: Fuck….fuck….fuck….fuck…fuck… etc, etc, etc.

HEY NOW! You just watch it…..

Back up off the NRA and Schwarzenegger

LOL!

-Galen

There won't be a draft Revere. Remember that it was imposed by two democrats (forgot who) but it didn't get through congress. Everybody needs to know this. THERE IS NO DRAFT.

Xavier: I love how anyone fat is automatically a "bitch" or a "bastard" in your eyes.

Why exactly do you hate people who are fat (by choice) so much? I'm somewhat fat myself, but feel comfortable staying that way for now, so why does that make me a "lazy fuck"?

About 6' tall with a 38 waist, to be specific. What do you classify that as?